On monday November 28, MachinimaMondays group in Second Life had a fieldtrip!Ataro Asbrink had contacted me and invited the group to come over.
Before posting the chatlog, I want to pass on what Ataro told me: if people have questions, tell them to contact me inworld.
http://scissores.com/super-blog/machinima/coded-movies-at-machinimamondays-group/
Chat at MaMo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwaORD-R8IY
Welcome to LEA4, everyone. This is the art exhibition InterACT!
Chantal Harvey: welcome everybody
Pamila Tiponi: ty laura
Ataro Asbrink: i dont have sound atm
Friday Siamendes: every so often i hear a voice briefly
L1Aura Loire: If you make machinima of any installation here, or set here, I'll put it on a cool machinima viewer as part of the exhibition.
Chantal Harvey: geo, can you record it while streaming?
Pamila Tiponi: tyy
Geo Meek: if we got voice working
Geo Meek: yes
Friday Siamendes: how do i shut off Rock 6? it keeps asking me for permission to control my camera
Friday Siamendes: ok thanks
Reseting script...
Ataro Asbrink: i think we should all have seen the movie samples
Geo Meek: stream is here http://www.livestream.com/SecondLifeNews
Ataro Asbrink: then we can talk
Ze Moo: great music here
Ambrosia Lanley: is there a link for teh samples
Ze Moo: is that part of the show?
Friday Siamendes: phone commercial playing now . . .
Ze Moo: Cool Geo: i will put that fulls screen on my second screen
Matthew Kidomen: I have a computer commercial playing
LEA InterAct! Coded Movie Examples: Reseting script...
Friday Siamendes: what should happen when i sit on the rock?
Matthew Kidomen: can more than one person sit on a rock?
Matthew Kidomen: pose ball? dancing?
Friday Siamendes: i got a menu, what should happen? I get a message from the rock every second, i have received probably 200 so far
Sculpted Rock 6: Reseting script...
Ataro Asbrink: has anyone seen the movies yet?
Friday Siamendes: someone else please sit on Rock 6, maybe it will leave me alone LOL
Friday Siamendes: maybe the rock likes you better Ambrosia
Jackie Lefko: no
Matthew Kidomen: I am watching us on LiveStream, watch each other, watch Live Stream
Ambrosia Lanley: gave me a menu and have no idea what to click chose overview
Ataro Asbrink: i think we should use this one rock in front of the cineama, after the other, i am sorry
Ataro Asbrink: this works here
Gridjumper: does someone need a rock?
Gridjumper: if someone wants a turn
Ataro Asbrink: leave the script with EXIT pls
Ataro Asbrink: not just standing up
Pamila Tiponi: is nice...
Matthew Kidomen: Hey!
Ataro Asbrink: why not chat?
Matthew Kidomen: haha, I watched my self wave to myself. haha
Ze Moo: what draw distance is needed?
Matthew Kidomen: slow mirror
Ataro Asbrink: draw distance 160 m
Ataro Asbrink: its in the menu
Ze Moo: ok
Ataro Asbrink: pls read it, lol
Ambrosia Lanley: ok I hit escape got a nice white secreen
Ataro Asbrink: i dont hear voices
Ataro Asbrink: are you all watching? lol
Jackie Lefko: yes
Ambrosia Lanley: do you have a link to see this maybe ill try that
Jnix Fallon: no menu for me
Matthew Kidomen: the pictures are in my mind.
Ze Moo: its great Ataro! Awesome!
Ambrosia Lanley: matt has crayons he could draw us a picture
Ataro Asbrink: thx moo!
Ze Moo Ze Moo impressed!
L1Aura Loire: It's very cool, and has so many possibilities.
Ataro Asbrink: we should have tried this before with some people, so much scripts at the same time seems to be a problem
Gridjumper: ok so how do you do it?
Matthew Kidomen: who is controling the LiveStream camera?
L1Aura Loire: which viewer are you on?
Ze Moo: Geo
Ze Moo: Matthew: Geo Meek = livestream
Ambrosia Lanley: someone try rock 6
Ambrosia Lanley: I got zip
Matthew Kidomen: did you say, "Zim, Zim, Zola, Bim?"
Matthew Kidomen: special magic code
Jackie Lefko: we hear you
Ze Moo: it is Simulatorsalabim
Ze Moo: ,0
L1Aura Loire: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwaORD-R8IY
Ze Moo: Macodema
Ataro Asbrink: lets make it in chat
L1Aura Loire: good
Ataro Asbrink: has anybody questions?
Chantal Harvey: yes, how do you do it
Chantal Harvey: is it with computer scripted language
Chantal Harvey: could we learn how to do that
Ataro Asbrink: yes with LSL
[Chantal Harvey: what is lsl
Pamila Tiponi: what scrips are use
Pamila Tiponi: for this
Ataro Asbrink: i can stop the running script, but i dont know who is watching, who needs help?
Pamila Tiponi: what language
Ze Moo: What is for you the main reasons you developed this Ataro? What does it gain for you from traditional video?
L1Aura Loire: Ataro has written these scripts himself.
Pamila Tiponi: what language javascript?
L1Aura Loire: LSL=Linden Scripting Language
Pamila Tiponi: ooh ok linden ones
Ataro Asbrink: I am just stopping the scripts in the rocks
L1Aura Loire: Ze's question is a good one--copying here so you can see it:
Ze Moo: What is for you the main reasons you developed this Ataro? What does it gain for you from traditional video?
Pamila Tiponi: smooth
Gridjumper: can you give an example of what the script looks like
Gridjumper: how many lines of code per minute of show?
Ataro Asbrink: just a moment...
L1Aura Loire: Here:
L1Aura Loire: It looks like this:
Cameraview(<70.915138, 76.942871, 20.937574>,<71.239334, 78.342018, 20.945393> ); //Regional coordinates
llSleep(6.0); //
L1Aura Loire: that is what I didn't want to read out loud!
Ze Moo: hey Pye! I cant see you but, please sit on a rock!
Ataro Asbrink: can you pls sit ion the stools, i delete thew rocks
Ze Moo: draw distance 160m
Gridjumper: ok so that line of code will give how mauch image and for how long?
Ze Moo: i am still in the Overview. how can i see myself?
Ataro Asbrink: yes
Ataro Asbrink: its really easy if you have understood it
L1Aura Loire: How about I return the rocks to you and you tell the people about your cool thing here?
Ataro Asbrink: just the coordinates of your camera and the direction
Ataro Asbrink: then you say llsleep etc in seconds and you see a scene
NicoleX Moonwall: that is a big IF for me
Geo Meek: seems i lost voice
Ataro Asbrink: first you have to have permission to use the camera, then you go
L1Aura Loire: no one is using voice right now--only text
Gridjumper: are there instructions for this posted someplace?
Ataro Asbrink: i leave only one rock with the script that will be better
Geo Meek: good thinking
Ataro Asbrink: instructions are in the menu after you sit on the rock
Friday Siamendes: this sounds really cool but after my traumatic experience with Rock 6 I have a Rock-sitting phobia
L1Aura Loire: I'll return the rest to you and you focus on the ideas behind what you're doing
Ataro Asbrink: haha
Geo Meek: i did post to
Geo Meek: http://www.livestream.com/secondlifenews
Ataro Asbrink: ok L1
L1Aura Loire: so if you're sitting on a rock, please rise
Ze Moo: And how is this different from the system Diabolus Carp uses for their live shows of The Wall and Metropolis?
Ze Moo: or would you call that coded movie' as well'
Geo Meek: i like it live but thats just me
Ataro Asbrink: the carp shows are performances, you can only see it at special times, this movies you can see everytime, when you want
Ze Moo: 'coded movie' hmm i wil try think of a better word maybe
Friday Siamendes: yes do NOT stand up
Geo Meek: may need to relog
Ze Moo: aha so Carp is 'coded theatre'? .)
Ataro Asbrink: now there is one rock left, problems are over i think
L1Aura Loire: It is a different way of thinking about "movie." Or camera-experience. It's exciting.
Ataro Asbrink: yes, carp is coded theatre
Ataro Asbrink: wonderful theatre
Ataro Asbrink: i like that
Ze Moo: yes i also like live performances a lot, because it has an interaction opening with the audience
Ataro Asbrink: but its not movie
Geo Meek: most of the AV's here are in this video http://www.livestream.com/secondlifenews
Ze Moo: what do you mean Ataro ? not movie??
Ataro Asbrink: movie is when you use the language of film used since griffith
Geo Meek: my work is just video capture
Ze Moo: weren't movies originally called moving pictures?
Ataro Asbrink: oh, thank you Geo, wonderful
Geo Meek: do visit me in Caleta there is a live link running on the ticker
Ze Moo: yes 'movie' is just abreviation of 'moving pictures' afaik
Ze Moo: the whole SL experience is kind of an individualized interactive 'movie' imho
L1Aura Loire: The menu gives choices, but they are limited, too, so for me it is a dance between what I can choose and what I cannot. And by taking out editing, making the experience of the movie -- yes--what Ze said--it takes that part of the SL and makes it more so, with a menu, specific camera views.
also i always said 'SL is the ultimate most real interactive live tele vision untill now'
Ze Moo: .)
L1Aura Loire: Maybe "virtual movie" is a better name than coded movie?
Ataro Asbrink: you can see the movies on the rock in front of the cinema
Ze Moo: no i dont like that Laura
Ze Moo: all movies are kind of 'virtual'
L1Aura Loire: then it is your turn to come up with a name!
Gridjumper: ok so the code works for a small set as you have here you move the camera within that set?
Pamila Tiponi: Code Directed movies
Ze Moo: yes i am thinkin
Ze Moo: good one Pam
Pamila Tiponi: ty
Ataro Asbrink: there are no frames anymore, you look right into sl-reality, thats virtual, dont you think zee?
Gridjumper: or can you have the camera move with the code to a very wide space?
Sorry late
Ataro Asbrink: somebody wrote that he could to the next sim with this
L1Aura Loire: could see into?
] Ataro Asbrink: but i think its not possible right now
Gridjumper: how long - how many lines of code per minute of movie?
Ze Moo: 
Ataro: sure it is virtual, but 'virtual\ is so much more, not really defined
Ataro Asbrink: sections?
Ze Moo: Geo: your stream of us looks awesome!
Chantal Harvey: yes geo
Ataro Asbrink: yes it looks great
Chantal Harvey: http://www.livestream.com/SecondLifeNews
Ataro Asbrink: has someone NOT seen a movie on the rock, lol
L1Aura Loire: "Movie on the Rock"
Chantal Harvey: hehe
Ataro Asbrink: there is one rock left, you can watch there
Ataro Asbrink: maybe thats the name, haha
L1Aura Loire: yes :) although it will only make sense to us
Pamila Tiponi: are these codes also used in rl sercurity cams?
Ataro Asbrink: yes, hear you
pamila: could be, lol
Hypatia Pickens: I just lost her voice
Hypatia Pickens: completely
Pamila Tiponi: but then in other scripting languages
Hypatia Pickens: when I closed out the livestream on line
Chantal Harvey: the stream has her voice
Ataro Asbrink: yes, not in LSL
Ze Moo: Yes! i need this for my SL security cams! to see who has been rezzing graffiti on my skybox ! L1Aura Loire: it was me, Ze ;) I confess
