Tuesday, December 20, 2011

chatlog MachinimaMondays December 19, 2011

Tpoic: making a wishlist for a machinima viewer/dropdown menu for excisting viewers.

MachinimaMondays whispers: Checking inventory items...
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MachinimaMondays meeting at 1 pm - needs your input!! we are hosting machinima and trying to make wishes come true! Discussing a machinima menu in Second Life viewers; what would be your ultimate application or option? What would make your machinima life better? Come on over and discuss it with us!

NikoKito Aries: hello good night
Chantal Harvey: hello
NikoKito Aries: hi Chantal
Chantal Harvey: heyas!
Chantal Harvey: welcome
NikoKito Aries: welcome Bubblepop
Bubblepop Unplugged: hello!
Chantal Harvey: hi bubble!
Chantal Harvey: welcome
Bubblepop Unplugged: chantal im close to being able to broadcast and do audio video soundeffects anounce all at once, one take.
Chantal Harvey: ho
Bubblepop Unplugged: very close
Bubblepop Unplugged: hope to talk to you about that and other stuff someday
Chantal Harvey: ok, there is room for that today, plenty
NikoKito Aries: welcome Pixie
Pixie Rain: thank you
Bubblepop Unplugged: i do have a quick question though
Bubblepop Unplugged: you ever try or hear of controling audio with foot pedals?
Chantal Harvey: sure, shoot
Bubblepop Unplugged: the volume
Chantal Harvey: woo no i havent
Bubblepop Unplugged: if im controlling sound effects with one hand, cam with the other, wich i almost mastered....
Chantal Harvey: hi gabe, welcome
Bubblepop Unplugged: ... i was thinking maybe footpedals to control volume. 1 for each soundcard/player
Gᵃᵇᵉ 게이브루니: Heeeeey!
핕리: omg gabe i didnt know u meant now
Gᵃᵇᵉ 게이브루니: LAWLLLLLLL
Chantal Harvey: welcome, MinDBlinD, grab a seat

Chantal Harvey: I was wondering, can all hear voice?
Bubblepop Unplugged: i like both voice AND text, makes it more exciting
At this point, in voice, Chantal Harvey announces sponsorship for the 2012 contest 48 Hour Film Project Machinima; 4000 dollars prize money and a big chance of the winning film going to not only Filmapalooza, but also to Cannes.
Pixie Rain: That should excite Tutsy enough to enter! I'll tell him tomorrow!

Chantal and Michelle then talked about viewer 1 and viewer 2, and why it now really is time for machinima people to move to the new viewers. Soon the 1-viewers will not be supported anymore, so we best prepare ourselves and get on with it.

A huge advantage is the better framerate and the light settings, amongst many other improved things. - so apart from having to move over soon anyway, this should be a good reason to do it now. Machinima will improve, we need to move on.

After initially resenting viewer 2, I found that it took me 2 days to get used to the new viewer, and to my own surprise do not want to go back to my beloved old viewer 1. It is a learning curve, but well worth it. Now, who would not wish for better framerates...?
We then moved on to todays topic: a machinima wishlist.

Today, sadly, Kirstens viewer was abandoned - the crowdfunder halted at 28%, Lee starts a rl job, and our beloved machinima viewer is gone. :-(

Several coders/viewers have now come to me and talked about implementing a machinima menu, or even developing a new machinima viewer. And you know? MachinimaMondays is an excellent platform for collecting ideas. We agreed to collect these and make a wish list.

Mary Wickentower wish list: machinimatographewrs windlight bundle - expansive set of windlights and special effects including but not limited to Torly's windlights
Gᵃᵇᵉ 게이브루니: yus
Pixie Rain: the new "Tex Refresh" option in FS 3 is fabulous
Ambrosia Lanley: one viewer for machinima
MinDBlinD Setsuko: a machinima dedicated viewer will be very useful
Ambrosia Lanley: stop all the applications that are not needed to reduce lag and smoother filming
Bubblepop Unplugged: saving every single setting so i jumop right back into filming after a crash
Ambrosia Lanley: derender is good
Pixie Rain: derender is essential for me
Gᵃᵇᵉ 게이브루니: it's possible to make a viewer where all settings persist between logins
Gᵃᵇᵉ 게이브루니: that's very easy
Gᵃᵇᵉ 게이브루니: every setting has "persist" yes or no, we can just set 'em all to persist
Bubblepop Unplugged: well... would a higher quality voice audio possible? would save lots of time in some cases. Adjustible audio would be useful, even high tones, noise reduction, bass sliders?
Ambrosia Lanley: for filming we dont need an external browers cookies java scripts plugins web proxy
MinDBlinD Setsuko: i don't know how.. but could be nice have a function to record a camera movement track
LaPiscean Liberty: yes macro settings
Bubblepop Unplugged: a search engine that links me to props and animations with a slurl with 100% accuracy.
Mary Wickentower: as that controls/HUDS visable to us but not on film to the list chant - a coder migth be able to figure out a way
Fuschia Nightfire: yes , that would be very helpful
Chantal Harvey: having text and huds outside the window-option would be more than useful, it was suggested over a year ago by Toxic Menges. Or just a way to operate huds without them showing in the film.
Gᵃᵇᵉ 게이브루니: two views? one with UI, one without UI
Gᵃᵇᵉ 게이브루니: in theory it's possible, but i don't know if you would want to... it's the equivalent of running two viewers, you take a loss in framerateGᵃᵇᵉ 게이브루니: but there might be a creative way around it
Gᵃᵇᵉ 게이브루니: how does fraps handle dual monitors?
LaPiscean Liberty: not possible to take outside the portal
Gᵃᵇᵉ 게이브루니: that's possible yus
Gᵃᵇᵉ 게이브루니: yeah, that's definitely possible
Gᵃᵇᵉ 게이브루니: UI on one monitor, world view on the other
Gᵃᵇᵉ 게이브루니: that would be pimp
Mary Wickentower: fraps records the ACTIVE window
Mary Wickentower: there is a clunky workaround for that
LaPiscean Liberty: if they did, it would be like Gabe said
LaPiscean Liberty: same as 2 viewers
Ambrosia Lanley: two avatars - two viewers
Gᵃᵇᵉ 게이브루니: but if you have world view on one screen, UI on the other, that's good
LaPiscean Liberty: but perhaps you could log twice and have your avatar control the other avatars functions
Bubblepop Unplugged: i never tried it, its why i was asking if its been done
Gᵃᵇᵉ 게이브루니: scripted camera tracking seems like the most obvious feature it would have
Gᵃᵇᵉ 게이브루니: set your path and timing between points
Bubblepop Unplugged: i do a dual monitor, livestream/procaster, rhapsody to play music, VLC to play sound effects, recording/sound/voice all at once
LaPiscean Liberty: or perhaps a better text client like metabolt, that has more function for your avatar
Bubblepop Unplugged: im also using that cam hud that guy had here. i need to find out where to get more
Gᵃᵇᵉ 게이브루니: it's possible - i can show you my scripted camera work
Gᵃᵇᵉ 게이브루니: want to see a video i did using that
[13:28] Gᵃᵇᵉ 게이브루니: all motion is scripted
only the first 30 seconds -- the rest is not by me
Pixie Rain: very good
Mary Wickentower: workaround to using huds and settings in fraps that do not appear in film- Some huds and settings will still work, even tho they are not visable , so it you track where they are on the screen, before you click F1, you can click on those buttons, even thos they are not visable - they are still THERE
Gᵃᵇᵉ 게이브루니: all the SL camera movement there is scripted
Gᵃᵇᵉ 게이브루니: but if there was camera tracking interface in the viewer, that would be awesome
Gᵃᵇᵉ 게이브루니: i have my own scripted gadget for doing that
Gᵃᵇᵉ 게이브루니: but i'd love to see it part of the UI
Gᵃᵇᵉ 게이브루니: Kinnect
Gᵃᵇᵉ 게이브루니: it's Kinnect
Ambrosia Lanley: its open source so alot of hacks are being made for sl
Bubblepop Unplugged: where can i find that one hud someone had here? the StatiCam v1.1 PRO ?
Ambrosia Lanley: it will but limited only by the hacks made so far with body movement so far
Mary Wickentower: you can combine some expressions in the free adorkable HUD
Gᵃᵇᵉ 게이브루니: i have something called BijoCam, it's pretty good, but still clunky
Bubblepop Unplugged: he had it here and was working on it, sold them for whatever we wanted. i think you got one didnt you chantal? Paramparam Papp!
Bubblepop Unplugged: i just have that one. and for this live broadcasing, im controling cam angles with left hand on keyboard.
Ambrosia Lanley: yea all pretty much the same
Mary Wickentower: you can also switch back and forth between hair bases to get eyebrow expressions
Ambrosia Lanley: smile frown ect. a drop down menu with basic emotions/animations would be good
Ambrosia Lanley: needs to be a smooth transition from one emotion to another
Mary Wickentower: I collect hair bases just so I can get different eyebrow raises frowns etc moving from one to the other
Ambrosia Lanley: crazy talk - it uses the mouse to make the face move
Arm Strom: dont look at me :-/
Ambrosia Lanley: called puppetiteir
Gᵃᵇᵉ 게이브루니: also easy to do
Arm Strom: :-)
Ambrosia Lanley: crazy talk 6
Gᵃᵇᵉ 게이브루니: but crazytalk can only be used on static images
Gᵃᵇᵉ 게이브루니: i wish it could be used on captured footage
Mary Wickentower: what would the software DREAM package(s) be to have to machinima if money was no problem ?
Michelle Leckrone: https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p/aDORKable-Poses-Emoter-HUD/1081190
Mary Wickentower: exterior software
Mary Wickentower: for productions
Mary Wickentower: and fine tuning
Mary Wickentower: like premiere etc
Ambrosia Lanley: ctrl alt left mous ebutton will control the eyes
Mary Wickentower: we need a difinitive list of all this good info
Michelle Leckrone: https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p/AnyPose-Expression/2613652

darx Taurus: people talks before about Kinect, have you seen this experimental video: http://www.nsl.tuis.ac.jp/xoops/modules/x_movie/x_movie_view.php?cid=2&lid=33
Gᵃᵇᵉ 게이브루니: framerate is way better in the 2 based viewers! framerate should be the number one priority for machinima artists
Mary Wickentower: grumbles about bloody "new" viewer
Mary Wickentower: Im miss dyslexic and monofixator eyes - new viewer makes me crazy

Michelle Leckrone: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9ujnzMPBoc&feature=channel_video_title

Chantal Harvey: I will copy paste this chat for references in my blog, tonight.
Gᵃᵇᵉ 게이브루니: can i say the f word just to spice things up?
Fuschia Nightfire: lol
Gᵃᵇᵉ 게이브루니: gotferdommen
Gᵃᵇᵉ 게이브루니: i'm sure i spelled that wrong
Gᵃᵇᵉ 게이브루니: LAWLLLLLLL
Mary Wickentower: rofl
Bubblepop Unplugged: awsom, please. how do i say 'you love donkeys" in dutch? - and i'll start using it in the usa
Gᵃᵇᵉ 게이브루니: ijk how van donkeys
Chantal Harvey: ik hou van ezels
Gᵃᵇᵉ 게이브루니: i was close
Mary Wickentower: there is a funny funny film where a prim & proper librian looking Dutch woman swears in dutch and translates it - it is funnay as
LaPiscean Liberty: As my Grandma would say, It;s all Dutch to me
Gᵃᵇᵉ 게이브루니: As my grandma would say, "pass the dutchie on the left hand side"

Chantal Harvey: http://www.nsl.tuis.ac.jp/xoops/modules/x_movie/x_movie_view.php?cid=2&lid=33

Gᵃᵇᵉ 게이브루니: that video is amazing
Pixie Rain: very interesting, yes
Gᵃᵇᵉ 게이브루니: a kinect costs about $150
Gᵃᵇᵉ 게이브루니: but worth it
LaPiscean Liberty: Ive had GOM player for yrs, but didnt know they offered a encoder now
Chantal Harvey: def, if i knew i could use it
Gᵃᵇᵉ 게이브루니: would Glyph Graves share the code?
darx Taurus: it's open source, but you can move avatar only in your screen, because there is no LL server support
Gᵃᵇᵉ 게이브루니: well you could host the kinect support on your own server
Gᵃᵇᵉ 게이브루니: use HTTP to transmit the data
LaPiscean Liberty: that would require some pretty good bandwith to http the movement to LL
Gᵃᵇᵉ 게이브루니: you could bypass LL
Gᵃᵇᵉ 게이브루니: the avatars have an attachment to send the data to your server, and the machinimatographer picks up the data through their viewer
Gᵃᵇᵉ 게이브루니: that would take a long time to make tho
Mary Wickentower: does ENCODER work with SL?
Gᵃᵇᵉ 게이브루니: aside from better facial animations, that is the most difficult thign that has been mentioned today
Bubblepop Unplugged: wich type of media streams into SL again? i forgot
LaPiscean Liberty: Mpeg, MP4, MOV, MP3, SDP
LaPiscean Liberty: VOB is low enough resolution
LaPiscean Liberty: MP2
Gᵃᵇᵉ 게이브루니: synching cameras in the next FS viewer? View angle numbers
Mary Wickentower: is ther a definative list anywhere of what you should have externeral to SL (software) & internal to SL to produce kicking films (if money was no object) ?
Pixie Rain: I like the idea of "preferences profile settings" ....1) High lag sims 2) Ultra 2) Depth of Field etc
Pixie Rain: so I call up the profile, not have to re-do it each time
Pixie Rain: 10 options, create your own presets, and an option to save them, like windlight settings now
darx Taurus: i have looked that DOF flickering strange way..maybe its just my viewer fault..have somebody experience?
Gᵃᵇᵉ 게이브루니: definitely can customize all menus
Gᵃᵇᵉ 게이브루니: definitely
Pixie Rain: and it automatically sets preferences to pre-defined graphics
Gᵃᵇᵉ 게이브루니: yeah you can create new presets
Pixie Rain: exactly
Gᵃᵇᵉ 게이브루니: right now it's only minimal --> ultra
Gᵃᵇᵉ 게이브루니: those four
Gᵃᵇᵉ 게이브루니: but you could make new ones
Gᵃᵇᵉ 게이브루니: yus
Pixie Rain: yes....but I mean user defined.....different AA, for example...different Draw, or shadows etc etc
Pixie Rain: * at the mo, we have to reset all the time..I change 5 to 10 times a day
Pixie Rain: if I go to a club...I want Impostors ON.....but if I go to an art sim, I want it OFF
Mary Wickentower: very productive meeting
Pixie Rain: Bye all, thank you
Chantal Harvey: second meeting at 7 pm, and I will collect your ideas all week long.

Thursday, December 1, 2011

Chatlog MachinimaMondays on Coded Movies with Ataro Asbrink

On monday November 28, MachinimaMondays group in Second Life had a fieldtrip!
Ataro Asbrink had contacted me and invited the group to come over.

Before posting the chatlog, I want to pass on what Ataro told me: if people have questions, tell them to contact me inworld.


Chat at MaMo:


Welcome to LEA4, everyone. This is the art exhibition InterACT!

Chantal Harvey: welcome everybody

Pamila Tiponi: ty laura

Ataro Asbrink: i dont have sound atm

Friday Siamendes: every so often i hear a voice briefly

L1Aura Loire: If you make machinima of any installation here, or set here, I'll put it on a cool machinima viewer as part of the exhibition.

Chantal Harvey: geo, can you record it while streaming?

Pamila Tiponi: tyy

Geo Meek: if we got voice working

Geo Meek: yes

Friday Siamendes: how do i shut off Rock 6? it keeps asking me for permission to control my camera

Friday Siamendes: ok thanks

Reseting script...

Ataro Asbrink: i think we should all have seen the movie samples

Geo Meek: stream is here http://www.livestream.com/SecondLifeNews

Ataro Asbrink: then we can talk

Ze Moo: great music here

Ambrosia Lanley: is there a link for teh samples

Ze Moo: is that part of the show?

Friday Siamendes: phone commercial playing now . . .

Ze Moo: Cool Geo: i will put that fulls screen on my second screen

Matthew Kidomen: I have a computer commercial playing

LEA InterAct! Coded Movie Examples: Reseting script...

Friday Siamendes: what should happen when i sit on the rock?

Matthew Kidomen: can more than one person sit on a rock?

Matthew Kidomen: pose ball? dancing?

Friday Siamendes: i got a menu, what should happen? I get a message from the rock every second, i have received probably 200 so far

Sculpted Rock 6: Reseting script...

Ataro Asbrink: has anyone seen the movies yet?

Friday Siamendes: someone else please sit on Rock 6, maybe it will leave me alone LOL

Friday Siamendes: maybe the rock likes you better Ambrosia

Jackie Lefko: no

Matthew Kidomen: I am watching us on LiveStream, watch each other, watch Live Stream

Ambrosia Lanley: gave me a menu and have no idea what to click chose overview

Ataro Asbrink: i think we should use this one rock in front of the cineama, after the other, i am sorry

Ataro Asbrink: this works here

Gridjumper: does someone need a rock?

Gridjumper: if someone wants a turn

Ataro Asbrink: leave the script with EXIT pls

Ataro Asbrink: not just standing up

Pamila Tiponi: is nice...

Matthew Kidomen: Hey!

Ataro Asbrink: why not chat?

Matthew Kidomen: haha, I watched my self wave to myself. haha

Ze Moo: what draw distance is needed?

Matthew Kidomen: slow mirror

Ataro Asbrink: draw distance 160 m

Ataro Asbrink: its in the menu

Ze Moo: ok

Ataro Asbrink: pls read it, lol

Ambrosia Lanley: ok I hit escape got a nice white secreen

Ataro Asbrink: i dont hear voices

Ataro Asbrink: are you all watching? lol

Jackie Lefko: yes

Ambrosia Lanley: do you have a link to see this maybe ill try that

Jnix Fallon: no menu for me

Matthew Kidomen: the pictures are in my mind.

Ze Moo: its great Ataro! Awesome!

Ambrosia Lanley: matt has crayons he could draw us a picture

Ataro Asbrink: thx moo!

Ze Moo Ze Moo impressed!

L1Aura Loire: It's very cool, and has so many possibilities.

Ataro Asbrink: we should have tried this before with some people, so much scripts at the same time seems to be a problem

Gridjumper: ok so how do you do it?

Matthew Kidomen: who is controling the LiveStream camera?

L1Aura Loire: which viewer are you on?

Ze Moo: Geo

Ze Moo: Matthew: Geo Meek = livestream

Ambrosia Lanley: someone try rock 6

Ambrosia Lanley: I got zip

Matthew Kidomen: did you say, "Zim, Zim, Zola, Bim?"

Matthew Kidomen: special magic code

Jackie Lefko: we hear you

Ze Moo: it is Simulatorsalabim

Ze Moo: ,0

L1Aura Loire: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwaORD-R8IY

Ze Moo: Macodema

Ataro Asbrink: lets make it in chat

L1Aura Loire: good

Ataro Asbrink: has anybody questions?

Chantal Harvey: yes, how do you do it

Chantal Harvey: is it with computer scripted language

Chantal Harvey: could we learn how to do that

Ataro Asbrink: yes with LSL

[Chantal Harvey: what is lsl

Pamila Tiponi: what scrips are use

Pamila Tiponi: for this

Ataro Asbrink: i can stop the running script, but i dont know who is watching, who needs help?

Pamila Tiponi: what language

Ze Moo: What is for you the main reasons you developed this Ataro? What does it gain for you from traditional video?

L1Aura Loire: Ataro has written these scripts himself.

Pamila Tiponi: what language javascript?

L1Aura Loire: LSL=Linden Scripting Language

Pamila Tiponi: ooh ok linden ones

Ataro Asbrink: I am just stopping the scripts in the rocks

L1Aura Loire: Ze's question is a good one--copying here so you can see it:

Ze Moo: What is for you the main reasons you developed this Ataro? What does it gain for you from traditional video?

Pamila Tiponi: smooth

Gridjumper: can you give an example of what the script looks like

Gridjumper: how many lines of code per minute of show?

Ataro Asbrink: just a moment...

L1Aura Loire: Here:

L1Aura Loire: It looks like this:

Cameraview(<70.915138, 76.942871, 20.937574>,<71.239334, 78.342018, 20.945393> ); //Regional coordinates

llSleep(6.0); //

L1Aura Loire: that is what I didn't want to read out loud!

Ze Moo: hey Pye! I cant see you but, please sit on a rock!

Ataro Asbrink: can you pls sit ion the stools, i delete thew rocks

Ze Moo: draw distance 160m

Gridjumper: ok so that line of code will give how mauch image and for how long?

Ze Moo: i am still in the Overview. how can i see myself?

Ataro Asbrink: yes

Ataro Asbrink: its really easy if you have understood it

L1Aura Loire: How about I return the rocks to you and you tell the people about your cool thing here?

Ataro Asbrink: just the coordinates of your camera and the direction

Ataro Asbrink: then you say llsleep etc in seconds and you see a scene

NicoleX Moonwall: that is a big IF for me

Geo Meek: seems i lost voice

Ataro Asbrink: first you have to have permission to use the camera, then you go

L1Aura Loire: no one is using voice right now--only text

Gridjumper: are there instructions for this posted someplace?

Ataro Asbrink: i leave only one rock with the script that will be better

Geo Meek: good thinking

Ataro Asbrink: instructions are in the menu after you sit on the rock

Friday Siamendes: this sounds really cool but after my traumatic experience with Rock 6 I have a Rock-sitting phobia

L1Aura Loire: I'll return the rest to you and you focus on the ideas behind what you're doing

Ataro Asbrink: haha

Geo Meek: i did post to

Geo Meek: http://www.livestream.com/secondlifenews

Ataro Asbrink: ok L1

L1Aura Loire: so if you're sitting on a rock, please rise

Ze Moo: And how is this different from the system Diabolus Carp uses for their live shows of The Wall and Metropolis?

Ze Moo: or would you call that coded movie' as well'

Geo Meek: i like it live but thats just me

Ataro Asbrink: the carp shows are performances, you can only see it at special times, this movies you can see everytime, when you want

Ze Moo: 'coded movie' hmm i wil try think of a better word maybe

Friday Siamendes: yes do NOT stand up

Geo Meek: may need to relog

Ze Moo: aha so Carp is 'coded theatre'? .)

Ataro Asbrink: now there is one rock left, problems are over i think

L1Aura Loire: It is a different way of thinking about "movie." Or camera-experience. It's exciting.

Ataro Asbrink: yes, carp is coded theatre

Ataro Asbrink: wonderful theatre

Ataro Asbrink: i like that

Ze Moo: yes i also like live performances a lot, because it has an interaction opening with the audience

Ataro Asbrink: but its not movie

Geo Meek: most of the AV's here are in this video http://www.livestream.com/secondlifenews

Ze Moo: what do you mean Ataro ? not movie??

Ataro Asbrink: movie is when you use the language of film used since griffith

Geo Meek: my work is just video capture

Ze Moo: weren't movies originally called moving pictures?

Ataro Asbrink: oh, thank you Geo, wonderful

Geo Meek: do visit me in Caleta there is a live link running on the ticker

Ze Moo: yes 'movie' is just abreviation of 'moving pictures' afaik

Ze Moo: the whole SL experience is kind of an individualized interactive 'movie' imho

L1Aura Loire: The menu gives choices, but they are limited, too, so for me it is a dance between what I can choose and what I cannot. And by taking out editing, making the experience of the movie -- yes--what Ze said--it takes that part of the SL and makes it more so, with a menu, specific camera views.

also i always said 'SL is the ultimate most real interactive live tele vision untill now'

Ze Moo: .)

L1Aura Loire: Maybe "virtual movie" is a better name than coded movie?

Ataro Asbrink: you can see the movies on the rock in front of the cinema

Ze Moo: no i dont like that Laura

Ze Moo: all movies are kind of 'virtual'

L1Aura Loire: then it is your turn to come up with a name!

Gridjumper: ok so the code works for a small set as you have here you move the camera within that set?

Pamila Tiponi: Code Directed movies

Ze Moo: yes i am thinkin

Ze Moo: good one Pam

Pamila Tiponi: ty

Ataro Asbrink: there are no frames anymore, you look right into sl-reality, thats virtual, dont you think zee?

Gridjumper: or can you have the camera move with the code to a very wide space?

Sorry late

Ataro Asbrink: somebody wrote that he could to the next sim with this

L1Aura Loire: could see into?

] Ataro Asbrink: but i think its not possible right now

Gridjumper: how long - how many lines of code per minute of movie?

Ze Moo:

Ataro: sure it is virtual, but 'virtual\ is so much more, not really defined

Ataro Asbrink: sections?

Ze Moo: Geo: your stream of us looks awesome!

Chantal Harvey: yes geo

Ataro Asbrink: yes it looks great

Chantal Harvey: http://www.livestream.com/SecondLifeNews

Ataro Asbrink: has someone NOT seen a movie on the rock, lol

L1Aura Loire: "Movie on the Rock"

Chantal Harvey: hehe

Ataro Asbrink: there is one rock left, you can watch there

Ataro Asbrink: maybe thats the name, haha

L1Aura Loire: yes :) although it will only make sense to us

Pamila Tiponi: are these codes also used in rl sercurity cams?

Ataro Asbrink: yes, hear you

pamila: could be, lol

Hypatia Pickens: I just lost her voice

Hypatia Pickens: completely

Pamila Tiponi: but then in other scripting languages

Hypatia Pickens: when I closed out the livestream on line

Chantal Harvey: the stream has her voice

Ataro Asbrink: yes, not in LSL

Ze Moo: Yes! i need this for my SL security cams! to see who has been rezzing graffiti on my skybox ! L1Aura Loire: it was me, Ze ;) I confess